Re: [linrad] Buying the Linux PC for Linrad use.

[Colburn <kd4e@xxxxxxxxxxxx]

Excellent information, thanks!

As soon as I get my new laptop fully functional under RH9 (internal
modem and nic not responding), will get serious about a new mobo.

dmc

On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 22:34, David Garnier wrote:
> Colburn,
> 
> You voiced concern for "highly integrated motherboards" (onboard
> Video, Sound, Lan, Usb and etc) not having Linux driver support
> for them (I hope that was you.)
> 
> I received a email from Intel stating they have drivers for some
> flavors of Linux and driver support for their P4 motherboards.
> 
> The flavors of Linux supported:
> http://developer.intel.com/design/motherbd/linux/
> 
> Intel's P4 motherboards which have Linux driver support:
> http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df/Detail_Desc.asp?strState=LIVE&PrdMap=prd36&DwnldID=6112&agr=N
> 
> Standard Disclaimer: I am not employed by Intel nor do I have
> anything financial to gain by suggesting useage of their motherboard
> products for amatuer radio.
> 
> 73's & GL
> 
> dave garnier - wb9own
> 
> 
> 
> support for their P4 mother m
> 
> David Garnier wrote:
> 
> > Colburn,
> >
> > Sorry, I did not get a chance to comment and acknowledge the
> > important comments in your email - that is - onboard chipsets be it
> > audio or video may not have Linux drivers for them - very good point.
> >
> > Another point that I missed in my email to Jim that is equally important
> > is that - the receiving capabilities of these DSP based radio programs
> > (Linard, DSP-10, DSR-1000 ?) can receive RFI emissions orders of
> > magnitude under Group 1 Class B RFI limits - you still may have to
> > ferrite bead, copper tape or screen stuff up...  Either way "your mileage
> > my vary" considering how far your antenna is located from your Pc.
> > It is truely amazing how many "dirty clocks" I can hear around &
> > outside my house.  A simple thing as a document scanner is a real
> > "dirty bird,"  it cannot be enclosed is a metal box if I want to scan
> > papers papers - right?  (My Visioneer Paperport scanner opens the
> > squelch on my 10, 6 and 2 meter radios.)
> >
> > Incidently, Leif's box modifications aren't all that outragious - I have
> > had to do things like that to switcher power supplies to prevent self
> > jamming in my companies Ultrasound product.
> >
> > dave garnier - wb9own
> >
> > Colburn wrote:
> >
> > > This is in my Sent box from yesterday but somehow never made it to the
> > > list.
> > >
> > > Can anyone recommend an equally rf-quiet mobo made by someone other than
> > > Intel, please? I have had nothing but bad experiences with on-board
> > > sound, video, and nics.
> > >
> > > Off-mobo eases upgrades and when the video/sound/network card fails one
> > > doesn't have to hope the on-board circuits can be totally bypassed --
> > > else live with artifacts.
> > >
> > > Also, anyone seen a 12VDC vs 120VAC input power supply for a desktop ATX
> > > case?  I'd like to really isolate it from the utility feed by running it
> > > on a battery.
> > >
> > > Thanks! & 73, doc kd4e
> > >
> > > On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 02:01, David Garnier wrote:
> > > > Hi Jim,
> > > >
> > > > If you piecing together your own system you would find motherboards
> > > > (in general) aren't all that expensive. Retail boxed Intel motherboards
> > > > are generally price competitive.  For example, a year ago the Intel
> > > > 845GBV board we used in product retailed for about $95.  This board
> > > > was attrative because it was highly integrated: (onboard I/O, 10-100
> > > > ethernet, 4 USB's (2 were USB 2.0,) Intel's Extream Graphics chipset,
> > > > 4 PCI slots.)  The big minus in the Intel solution is the P4 pricing and
> > > > DDR pricing...  If you don't need bleeding edge performance the
> > > > pricing of P3 CPU's and ram are real attractive.  At Dayton I was
> > > > looking at a P3 Intel retail mother board for $75 dollars (Intel board
> > > > guarantee is 3 years) and 1.X Ghz CPU is about the same price.
> > > > Gateway is using Intel motherboards in some of their products. In fact
> > > > those brand new P3 Intel boards were being solde by that same
> > > > vendor for $45 dollars...
> > > >
> > > > Try this once. Go to Pricewatch.com once, search on motherboards,
> > > > then on Intel once, check the prices once.
> > > > http://www.pricewatch.com/2/2/32-1.htm
> > > >
> > > > It's getting late, I will look at the PCUSA tomorrow...  There have
> > > > been a couple threads in the past 2 years on the IEEE EMC listserve
> > > > on which quiet PC's are used... HP Vectra's and some Dell's were
> > > > some favorites.  Buying used is another option.  More later.
> > > > 73's and goodnite. dave garnier
> 
> 



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