[linrad] Re: Linux distributions

[richard <blueyonder.co.uk; richard.bown@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

leif@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Hi Richard and all,
>
>
>
> > Just one foot note to that Leif
> >
> > There is a move with all the linux distros to cope with hot plugging of devices.
> > and due to this /dev/ is now dynamic, This means you can no longer rely on svgalibs
> > to create entires in the /dev tables.
> > This is done by udev.
>
> Without knowledge of udev I solved this problem in linrad by
> introducing the command "make svgalib" which adds a script that
> executes at boot time and installs everything necessary.
>
>
> > Mandriva  follows this approach, and so will the others,
> > for all the distros the main use is desktop apps and the ease of which they can be implemented.
> > People want to be able to plug anything into a USB port and see it work.
> >
> > The down side to linrad is manually entering into /dev with mknod 
> > every time the machine is powered up.
>
> ???
> I did not try Mandriva, but nobody told me that the "make svgalib" does
> not work.

Well I sorta did
Hi Guys,
Installing on Mandriva 2006 kernel-2.6.12-15mdk, all the svgalibs are available as rpms,
I had to fool ./configure by creating a directory /usr/src/svgalib/ and adding a version file.
svgalib_helper is a module so no problems.
just one so far no /dev/svga exists.
Does anyone know the major and minor numbers to use mknod to create /dev/svga

Thanks

Richard "
> > It may be better to look at some of the more ancient distro's which specialize for applications away 
> > from the main stream.
>
> I do not think so. To the extent that I get feedback I make
> changes to the Linrad Makefile.in in order to make install
> work easily under all Linux distros. 
>
>
> > Mandriva is not an odd ball distro, its one of the easiest to set up and has taken over 3 other 
> > distros in the past year, and its still got an appetite for more.
>
> Yes, formerly Mandrake. I would be interested to know whether
> Linrad installs if one follows the instructions at the Linrad
> Home Page including installing svgalib from source code.

If you use tar balls to blat over a stable system that uses RPM ,and has all the svgalib packages
available as RPMs its asking for trouble.
I spend a lot of my time sorting out systems were someone has blatted a tar ball over the top of a 
RPM data base, which then loses all its info on updates, the dependency tables are then corrupted.
Mandriva make use extensively of URPMI, if you urpmi <package> it will not only go and get the 
package but install all its dependencies.
I've tried many times to get linrad to run, and the only conclusion I come to each time is ,one 
computer for linrad and another for everything else.
You have done such good work with linrad Leif, its such a shame to the platforms it can run on diminish.
As a temp fix mknod statements can be added to rc.local, but really it needs attention paid to the 
way the hotplug daemons behave.

73
Richard G8JVM
> 73
>
> Leif

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