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[linrad] Re: Debian

Hi All,

   Try Knoppix-3.8.1. It's debian based and works out of the box. AFAIK it
has not been announced on slashdot yet, but I downloaded the .iso from
ibiblio.org and installed it OK. IIRC - It is using 2.6.11 and from what I
understand supports interrupts from kernel space and so may be much better
suited for linrad.

   Now I just gotta catch up with reading the mailing list :).

   warm regards to all,
   john, ni1b

On Mon, 18 Apr 2005, w3sz wrote:

> Hello, All,
> 
> With the help of Ramiro and Patrick and Zaba's recent 'HOW-TO's and with  
> Zaba's giving me some advice on OSS's FTP address, I was today able to get  
> Linrad running under Debian with kernel 2.6.8-2-386.  THANKS GUYS for the  
> helpful advice and 'cheat-sheets'!!
> 
> My first impressions are:
> 
> 1.  Linrad seems to work as well under Debian as it did under Fedora Core  
> 3.
> 
> 2.  I have NOT been able to get XWINDOWS working under Debian [even with  
> the VESA driver], and while that doesn't matter for Linrad, it makes doing  
> everything else with Linux much more difficult.   It is like turning the  
> clock back 25 years to the DOS and CPM days...not pretty.   Doing the  
> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 thing didn't help with my hardware [Intel  
> Extreme Graphics 2].  X Windows still fails to start with Debian.  It  
> worked 'right out of the box' with FC3.
> 
> 
> I had some additional issues that arose in getting Debian and Linrad to  
> play nice with each other:
> 
> 1.  I had the same trouble with svgalib in Debian that I had with Fedora  
> core 3, presumably due to the 2.6.x kernels.  Compiling svgalib 1.9.20  
> wrote the svga* devices to /dev, but these disappeared on rebooting as  
> they weren't saved.  So I had to do a cp -a /dev/svga* /etc/udev/devices  
> before rebooting.  To do thisI had to first create the directory  
> /etc/udev/devices as it didn't exist.  With Debian, linux doesn't  
> automatically put these devices back into /dev on rebooting, so one then  
> needs to do a cp -a /etc/udev/devices/svga* /dev/ when rebooting.
> 
> 2.  My Delta 44 and other soundcards would NOT work with the alsa-oss  
> sound under Debian.  I had to ftp oss3992c-linux-x86-v26.tar.gz from  
> www.se.opensound.com .  The file is in the directory /pub/oss/linux.  You  
> need to log on as anonymous.  For Debian I needed the nonregparm version,  
> which is what I listed here.  FC3 required the other one [regparm].
> 
> 3.  OSS would not install because of the sound system already in place,  
> and although oss-install tried to remove the sound system, it failed.  I  
> had to remove the 'snd' file from the appropriate directory and reboot.   
> Then sound couldn't start on reboot, and then OSS would install OK.  OSS  
> gave some error messages on install, but it still works OK.
> 
> 4.  I had 19 sound devices once oss installed, and the ?logical? choices  
> in Linrad produced no properly working results.  So I ran osstest and it  
> showed me the /dsp numbers of each device as it ran.  It turned out that I  
> had to use /dsp6 for the Delta 44, and /dsp1 for the Intel CH5.  When  
> running ossmix to set envy24.rate to 96000, the Delta44 was d3.  All of  
> this will vary for your setup.
> 
> 5.  Just in case someone just tuned in:  the 'modprobe svgalib_helper'  
> thing is still necessary.  So is adding /dev/input/mice to the  
> /etc/vga/libvga.config file.
> 
> 
> 
> SO, if I can get XWINDOWS working with Debian, I might make it my main  
> installation.  Otherwise, it is just too much of a headache to use for  
> everything other than Linrad without XWINDOWS.  Since I never had FC3 lock  
> up when running Linrad for 24 hours or so like it did for Leif, there is  
> really no motivation for me to switch, other to be able to say I did it,  
> and to stay compatible with those who are running Linrad and Debian.  My  
> Debian vs FC3 install time comparison must now be something like 30 hours  
> for Debian vs 30 minutes for FC3.  FC3 works perfectly for me.  Debian  
> still doesn't have XWINDOWS.  Hmmm...  ;)
> 
> Hope the above helps!
> 
> 73,
> 
> Roger
> W3SZ
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> -- 
> Roger Rehr
> W3SZ
> http://www.nitehawk.com/w3sz
> 
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