[linrad] Re: Knoppix 3.8.1 CD with svgalib-1.9.21 and linrad-01.33

[Ramiro Aceves <ea1abz@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Congratulations! You have made a very useful work. I have been reading 
your text file and it is marvellous. And you have made a very good 
instructions to build something similar.
Only some minor issues:

The text file is very difficult to read cause line lengths are not 
equal. Some lines are very very long and I have to scroll the screen to 
the left to see the end.
It would be desirable to create a real *.deb package for svgalib and for 
linrad instead of installing on the /usr/local. But while we have that, 
it is very fine like it is.
I can not test your CD now cause my internet connection is very slow at 
home(it is a holiday day here today), but perhaps during the week I can 
download it at the University were we have faster Internet connnection.
Keep posted.
Ramiro, EA1ABZ.




w3sz wrote:
> Hello, all,
>
> Sufferring from linux withdrawal after getting Debian to run on 3 
> machines  here I decided to make a Knoppix CD with svgalib-1.9.21 and 
> linrad-01.33  on it, configured so that [if all is well] linrad would 
> come up running  before one even got to the Knoppix attempt to start 
> XWindows [which you  can prevent by typing 'knoppix 2' at the boot prompt].
> I did this because I have been impressed that Knoppix 3.8.1 [with the  
> 2.6.22 core] has the best hardware detection algorithms of any of the  
> distros short of Fedora that I've tried, and because there seems to be  
> this aversion to Fedora hanging in the air.
> I had tried Morphix, but its hardware detection was NOT even close to  
> Knoppix, and by virtue of its small size it just didn't cut it, as if 
> it  didn't work 'out of the box', the tools I wanted to fix it weren't 
> in the  package.  So if the network was being balky about starting, one 
> was SOL.
> I added a bit of things I wanted to the standard Knoppix distro [Opera,  
> svgalib-1.9.21 and linrad-01.33 and a few other things], and removed  
> OpenOffice so that it would all fit on a CD; the KNOPPIX.iso file is  
> 682.302 MB.  I have tried it on 5 computers and XWindows video works on  
> all of them.  By changing /libvga.config to use the VESA driver, 
> svgalib  video works on all of them.
> The computers range from an old 900MHz P3 and an old AMD P1800 [both of  
> which have bioses pre2001; 2000 and 1997, respectively] to a newer but  
> still not new 1G P3 to an old AMD 2100 thereabouts, to a Dell 1.8 GHz 
> P4.   The video hardware ranges from old Radeon to newest Radeon to old 
> onboard  to newer onboard.  The sound is either onboard or Creative Labs 
> [only one  card or onboard unit in each machine].  I am not more 
> specific about all  of this hardware as its been a long time since I 
> assembled these  specimens, I didn't take any of the computers apart 
> today to check, and  they are mostly not mine, but belong to each of one 
> of us 5 in the nuclear  family here, and I shoehorned my experiments in 
> on less than enthusiastic  participants, so my data collection time was 
> sparse.
> I got XWindows sound out of 3 of the 5.  One of the other two hasn't 
> had  any sound for a long time, and the other may have had sound 
> available, but  it didn't have speakers attached and I didn't have time 
> to attach them ;)
> With 4 of the 5 machines linrad worked in some fashion, but it was 
> perfect  with sound in only 1.  In two others I got the appropriate 
> waveforms on  the screen in all display windows, but nothing out of the 
> speakers.  In  one other I didn't have time to get any sound to 
> display;  I think I ran  thru all of the "U" configuration possibilities 
> with no sucess.  The 5 one  was an XP P4 with USB mouse and not 
> surprisingly that locked up.  I didn't  have time to play with it AT ALL 
> as my son was in the midst of wargames.   Time spent on each machine 
> with the CD was less than 15 minutes, probably  closer to 5 minutes in 
> some cases.
> I would be interested in some people trying the CD to see how it works 
> for  them.  I would also be interested in having it critiqued my some of 
> the  Linux gurus on the list to see how it can be improved.  I DO NOT 
> think we  should try to pare it down in size, except to get rid of the 
> unnecessary  configuration files, etc. that are probably on it.
> I removed the XF86Config files as that is essential Knoppix is going to 
> go  thru its hardware detection routines, but I don't know if there are 
> other  similar files for audio or other subsystems that I should have 
> also  removed, but didn't.
> A brief note of what I did is at
>
> http://www.nitehawk.com/w3sz/w3sz-knoppix-howto.txt
>
> I haven't formatted it and put it on a webpage yet, so it will be 
> easier  to read if you download it into a wordprocessor where you can 
> set some  margins.
> I didn't make it up to Hilltop to try this on the real Linrad systems yet.
>
> I did use Linrad some on the microwaves this weekend and was again most  
> impressed by the utility of being able to see +/- 45 KHz on the higher  
> bands.
> Let me know if you are interested in the KNOPPIX.iso file, and if you 
> have  any ideas about how/where it could be made available on the web.  
> I can  upload it anywhere, but it will take 682.3 MB of space once it 
> arrives,  and comcast doesn't give me that much ;)
> 73,
>
> Roger
> W3SZ

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