[linrad] Re: Need for a freeze;

[<leif@xxxxxxxxxx>]

> Actually 'Linrad' has changed very little through the years as far
> as the basic requirements go. It is possibly not critical regarding
> the kernel, and will probably run on any kernel from the early ages
> of 'Linux'.
The earliest kernel that I sucessfully installed was 2.2.12 = RedHat6.1.
I was not able to get sound running on older ones.

> It just needs an operational SVGALIB package in one form
> or the other for the hardware in question. Leif may be able to comment
> whether a lir00-xx through lir01-34 would work on the same platform.
All Linrad versions work on kernel 2.2.12 but old Linrad versions
do not work with modern compilers. There have been several changes
in the GCC package and there have been bugs in it that made it necessary
to put the include files in a particular order in some cases.
Suddenly all header files were required to end with a newline
which was not necessary under older kernels so older Linrad
versions do not have these newlines.

1) Select the Linux distribution that fits your hardware.
     Pentium I 100 MHz 16 Megabytes RAM  =>  RedHat 6.1
     Pentium MMX 266MHz => Mandrake 8.0
     Modern => Modern

2) Under old distributions you should probably run OSS
     for the soundcard(s)

3) Compile svgalib-1.9.21 without helper. I think it
     will always be sucessful but I have not yet tried
     (it takes a lot of time)

> Since it is so easy to get the 2.6.x kernels, we might as well stick
> with kernel 2.6.11 and up and SVGALIB 1.9.21 (Onward and Upward, Mike).
>
> The reason I mention the need for a freeze, is due to the fact that
> all this play with the fine detail will hold us off from the efforts
> to get a real-life system working. Soon it will be Winter again and we
> will have missed the Es-season experiments (talking about 50 MHz here).
> I am talking about pure private experience, as there are many running
> systems around; I am thinking also about integral effort, the total
> of burnt energy (due to endless repeats and "labyrinth-learning").
>
> There is a group of operators that has trained themselves to install
> SVGALIB and LINRAD onto a hard drive after installing a viable Linux.
> That could be freeze No_1: e.g. Install plain Knoppix 3.8.2 and then
> add svgalib 1.9.x and lir01-3x. Then just "happily" run that stuff....
>
> Freeze No_2: to have one solid Live-CD/W3SZ that is working after a
> hard drive install, and that will allow to add new versions of LINRAD
> by hand, or with subsequent Live-CD_releases [without other changes].
>
> The above is for regular users. For developers anything else is still
> very welcome, but including all the attached warnings and deterrents.
> LINRAD should not be frozen - just the intermediate platforms.
Actually Linrad is more or less frozen at 01-34 because the next
one will probably be the very experimental 02-00 which may be
too unstable for regular usage. I will put some goodies into it
to make sure there will be a reasonable number of brave test pilots;-)

73

Leif / SM5BSZ




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